tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760102.post109997057855674032..comments2023-07-02T22:13:53.050+12:00Comments on Theo Geek: An analogyAndrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01904922191977808104noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760102.post-1100551112845934582004-11-16T09:38:00.000+13:002004-11-16T09:38:00.000+13:00Yes it does fit in Sam.Yes it does fit in Sam.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01904922191977808104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760102.post-1100523416280269372004-11-16T01:56:00.000+13:002004-11-16T01:56:00.000+13:00I can see your point, (and i know this is an incre...I can see your point, (and i know this is an incredibly late comment! sorry! exams got me a bit tied up! :P)<br /><br />You used the drug analogy. I like it! ^_^ But theres something in here i picked up that you might not have thought of. <br /><br />You said: "The focus is moved from the fact that sin destroys us" And it does. Its not about Punishment, its about the inevitable result of sinning. God doesnt punish anyone, but We are punished by our own lifestyle. <br />Salvation, GOd prevents that from happening to us. <br /><br />Doesnt this fit in too?Philotashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15704879994825376720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760102.post-1100120243004546082004-11-11T09:57:00.000+13:002004-11-11T09:57:00.000+13:00Nice post Andrew!Nice post Andrew!Notions Incognitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03563317972349417700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760102.post-1100039994095106282004-11-10T11:39:00.000+13:002004-11-10T11:39:00.000+13:00Yeah, come to think of it the flatting thing proba...Yeah, come to think of it the flatting thing probably works best.<br />Unless I get the craving to study greek over the next couple of months thats how we'll do itNathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01168391817929027105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760102.post-1100028040270177702004-11-10T08:20:00.000+13:002004-11-10T08:20:00.000+13:00Wait a minute... maybe your question needs more se...Wait a minute... maybe your question needs more serious consideration than I thought. For example there is Eph 2:9 where saved is in the perfect tense (ie completed past action that has resulted in present state of salvation), and of course every time writers talk about what Jesus himself did it's understandably one of the past tenses - though it would be interesting to look at which one it is in. But then of course there are other verses that come to mind such as Phil 2:12 that say "[continue] to work out your salvation with fear and trembling for God is [continuously] at work in you".<br /><br />My current guestimate about what's going on is that:<br />a) In the life, death and resurrection of Christ God defeated (event) the powers of evil.<br />b) In becoming Christians, we have been brought out of darkness into the kingdom of light (event). [I think the best analogy for this justification is a Nazi prisoner being freed and brought back to England... they are freed from the powers that held them in bondage and shown into the true realm]<br />c) Once saved thusly, we in turn need to be totally healed and saved (process) from any and all remaining evil in us. [Of course, should the person decide they liked it better in a Nazi prison and wander back in and give themselves over to bondage once more, then that is a distinctly unhelpful thing]<br />d) One day in the future God will complete the salvation of the world from all evil. (event or process??)<br /><br />Anyway I plan over the next week or two to compile an exhaustive list of NT verses referring to the topic of salvation, and I can have a look at the tenses then.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01904922191977808104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760102.post-1099977910472284522004-11-09T18:25:00.000+13:002004-11-09T18:25:00.000+13:00It's a continuing process... past and present cont...It's a continuing process... past and present continuous, not aorist nor perfect. ;)<br /><br />Well you can have your greek books back any time you care to pick them up. I was kinda assuming you would just get them back when you moved in, but if you want them sooner by all means come and get them or remind me to bring them with me to your place sometime.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01904922191977808104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760102.post-1099977216314714772004-11-09T18:13:00.000+13:002004-11-09T18:13:00.000+13:00Out of interest, do you mean that last paragraph i...Out of interest, do you mean that last paragraph in the continious sense (past?) 'has cured and continues to cure us'? or are you using the perfect (?) 'has cured us, and completed the curing'?<br />If that makes any sense.<br /><br />When can I get my greek books back? I need to revise the tenses :DNathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01168391817929027105noreply@blogger.com